[vox-tech] Cannot install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7

Fri Nov 8 09:50:09 PST 2013

Alex, thanks for the reply.

First, how would you even turn secure boot off? I don't see it listed as an
option the BIOS settings. Drop it to Legacy, how?

I primarily use Linux for my personal endeavors; however, there
situations/applications for my work where I am forced to use Windows. And
although I could run Windows in a virtual environment, I don't know how
well that would work when I need to remote desktop into my office computer.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>wrote:

> Generally turning Secure Boot off makes life easier (Isn't supposed to
> be necessary after 12.10). Also turning fast boot off while working on
> an install generally helps make it easier to switch around settings when
> troubleshooting. UEFI should be ok, but if turning off Secure boot
> doesn't help you might have to drop it to Legacy.
>
> I've never encountered an issue where I couldn't see the existing
> partitions I made ahead of time but it could be secure boot related.
> I haven't done a recent Ubuntu fresh install but they usually have a
> choice to use the free space available and the advanced menu has always
> let me pick partitions and assign mounts.
>
> And yes if the hard drive is set earlier in the boot order you shouldn't
> expect other boot devices to work at all, even though some bios have a
> F12 boot menu it's not fool proof.
>
> Side track as others mentioned in the previous thread, what's the goal
> of this install? If you don't plan to primary boot linux all the time
> there are much easier ways (ie virtual machines).
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> On 11/08/2013 09:19 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> > I recently started a thread asking about partition schemes:
> > http://lists.lugod.org/pipermail/vox-tech/2013-November/016793.html
> >
> > After reading the numerous helpful comments, I decided to keep it simple
> > and go with an NFTS partition for Win7, and an extended partition that
> > contained partitions for / and /home (both in ext4 format).
> > Great. I used GParted to format the drive and create the partitions and
> > then installed Windows 7 and all the updates without a problem. Windows 7
> > is as happy as a pig in mud.
> >
> > I then created a live USB of Ubuntu 13.10 with the UNetbootin tool (in
> > Windows). I boot from the live USB and select the option to "Install".
> When
> > I get to the "Installation type" page, I see options for:
> > (a) Erase disk and install Ubuntu
> >     (i) Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security
> >     (ii) Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation
> > (b) Something else
> >
> > No option to install alongside Windows.
> >
> > Clicking on "Something Else" would allow me to create a new partition
> > table, but it does not "see" the partitions that already exist.
> >
> > A Google search reveals that this installation dilemma is common. Some of
> > the problems were due to users having more than 4 primary partitions.
> That
> > is certainly not the case here.  I have also seen posts about the disk
> > system being "dynamic" and that causes problems with the Ubuntu
> installer.
> > Also not the case:
> >
> > Current partition table (according to Windows disk management tool):
> > C: 150 GB, Layout = simple, File System = NTFS, Status = Healthy (System,
> > Boot, Page File, Active, Crash Dump, Primary Partition), Free Space =
> > 108.57 GB, Fault Tolerance = No, Overhead = 0%
> > 315.76 GB unallocated
> >
> > Other posts discuss UEFI BIOS, BIOS options such as Secure Boot and
> > FastBoot. I cannot figure out if any of these would apply to me or not.In
> > Windows 7,dxdiag (direct X diagnostic tool) tells me:
> > System Model: Dell System XPS 15z
> > BIOS: Default System BIOS
> >
> > BIOS settings:
> > Intel Speedstep = enabled
> > Virtualization = enabled
> > Integrated NIC = enabled
> > USB emulation = enabled
> > USB powershare = enabled
> > USB wake support = disabled
> > SATA operation = AHCI (other option is ATA)
> > Adapter warnings = enabled
> > Function Key Behavior = Function Key
> > Charger Behavior = enabled
> > battery health = performing normally
> > miscellaneous devices:
> >     external USB ports = enabled
> >     eSATA ports = enabled
> >
> > Interesting thing about the boot order:
> > if I have the hard drive before the USB storage device, I cannot fully
> boot
> > into the live USB. I will see an initial splash screen that is most black
> > with two small icons on the bottom center that resemble a keyboard =
> stick
> > man surrounded by a circle. The system will then "hang" with a blank
> screen
> > and the fans going at about 50%. Disabling Intel Speedstep in the bios
> also
> > seems hang the live USB.
> >
> >
> > Motherboard Board:
> > Dell Inc.
> > Product: 00WW5M
> > Version: A00
> > Serial Number: .3SJSQS1.CN4864322A0095.
> > Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
> > BIOS: Dell Inc. A12 09/07/2012
> > example for sale on ebay: http://bit.ly/1gwcdX9
> >
> > Hard drive:
> > Seagate Momentus: ST500LX003-1AC15G (500.11 GB) --
> > drive 0, s/n W2003D1H, rev DEM3
> > This is a hybrid drive.
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
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