[vox] What's On the Blacklist? Three Sites That SOPA Could Put at Risk [EFF]

Mikies Runs Baal mikiesrunsbaal.sec at sbcglobal.net
Thu Dec 1 14:52:11 PST 2011


READ the bill...

It EXPLICITLY states that the host is only liable IF they do NOT make a 
reasonable effort to remove misused copyrighted materials.

IMHO,

MJR

On 12/1/2011 12:03 PM, Eric Rasmussen wrote:
> I read that as EFF saying "we don't believe websites that let users 
> post potentially copyright infringing content should be subject to 
> legal threat, but under the new law they will be".
>
> If I start an Etsy shop reselling goods from Acme and use Acme's 
> original copyrighted product photos, Etsy could be at risk, even if 
> they don't reasonably have a way to automatically filter out that 
> content. Etsy is then put in a position where they have to put 
> unreasonable controls on the majority of non-copyright-infringing 
> customers to prevent potential legal action.
>
> Acme could always ask Etsy to remove the copyright-infringing content, 
> but with the new law they could go straight to the payment processor 
> and prevent Etsy from collecting funds they might need to continue 
> running, regardless of the eventual outcome of the investigation.
>
> If I'm understanding it correctly, this means that any of us that one 
> day start a site where users can freely post photos, text (copyrighted 
> lyrics/slogans/etc.) would also be at risk. Sites like Tumblr that 
> host blogs for many users are very concerned about the law for this 
> reason.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 AM, <timriley at appahost.com 
> <mailto:timriley at appahost.com>> wrote:
>
>     > -------- Original Message --------
>     > Subject: [vox] What's On the Blacklist? Three Sites That SOPA
>     Could Put
>     > at Risk       [EFF]
>     > From: Brian Lavender <brian at brie.com <mailto:brian at brie.com>>
>     > Date: Thu, December 01, 2011 11:18 am
>     > To: vox at lists.lugod.org <mailto:vox at lists.lugod.org>
>     >
>     >
>     > What's On the Blacklist? Three Sites That SOPA Could Put at Risk
>     >
>     https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/whats-blacklist-three-sites-sopa-could-put-risk
>     >
>     > Don't let well intended idealists fool you. EFF put together
>     some details
>     > regarding unintended consequences and SOPA.
>
>     The key sentence is, "To be clear: we don't believe that the way
>     these websites operate is or should be subject to legal threat."
>
>     In other words, the author of this page doesn't believe these websites
>     are
>     violating copyright laws. But the author is still going to present
>     these
>     websites as unintended consequences.
>
>     The reason for one website's unintended consequence is described as,
>     "That's a problem, because  under SOPA, anybody who is a 'holder of an
>     intellectual property right harmed by the activities' of even a
>     portion
>     of the site, could serve Etsy's payment processors with a notice that
>     would
>     require them to suspend Etsy's service within 5 days."
>
>     I can't make any sense out of this. Explain again why SOPA could put
>     Etsy at risk?
>
>     <snip>
>
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