[vox-tech] portable mp3 player in linux

Ken Bloom kabloom at ucdavis.edu
Fri Dec 3 07:32:07 PST 2004


On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:01:32 -0500
p at dirac.org (Peter Jay Salzman) wrote:

> On Fri 03 Dec 04, 12:40 AM, David Hummel <dhml at comcast.net> said:
> >   [ apologies for breaking the thread, too quick with delete ]
> > 
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:48:54 -0800, Brian Richter wrote:
> > > 
> > > If I had the money, I would get a Neuros. www.neurosaudio.com
> > 
> > I agree that if you want to hack your player, the neuros is
> > (possibly the only) way to go, and could be fun if you had the time.
> >  I don't, and
> > I ultimately decided against it based on the following:
> > 
> >                         Neuros HD 40GB     iRiver H140 40GB
> > 		        --------------     ----------------
> >  Mass (g):              266                172
> >  Dimensions (mm):       134x78x33          105x60x22
> >  I/O:                   line               SPDIF+line
> >  Record to MP3 (kbps):  64-160             40-320
> >  Charge Time (hrs):     8                  3
> >  Remote:                --                 Backlit LCD
> >  Playback Time (hrs):   10                 16
> >  Battery Type:          Li-ion             Li-polymer
> >  EQ:                    ??                 6 modes
> > 
> > These are just the things that were obvious, and the rest of the
> > specs are similar between the players.  Apparently lithium polymer
> > batteries last as much as 3x longer than lithium ion, which is good
> > because like the neuros, the battery in the iRiver is not user
> > replaceable.  I'm guessing the iRiver battery is much more expensive
> > to replace as a result.
> > 
> > Of course the neuros has the FM broadcasting, which I'm not sure is
> > practical, but it's cool.  And it has a large skip protection buffer
> > which is nice.  The neuros is also quite a bit cheaper ($300 vs.
> > $400), but there are lower capacity versions of both.
>   
> I love this thread!
> 
> Have you looked at the iRiver iFP 799T?  It appears to be a flash
> player with 1GB of storage.  I didn't think there were any flash
> players with that much storage around.  I've seen it at a remarkable
> $180 on amazon.   1G for under$200 sounds too good to be true.
> 
> There also appears to be an iRiver H340, which slightly cheaper than
> the H140.  It has a color screen (say hello to more recharging), can
> display jpg and bmp images.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to support
> wav.
> 
> Lastly, there were some complaints about the H140 (although I suspect
> these are all ipod lovers who are pretty low or non-tech people to
> begin with). This is from amazon
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001BRITE/002-3454873-5363261?v=glance
> 
>    * playlists can't be created on the fly (dunno what that exactly
>    means...)

You have to do it in advance on a computer - and have the appropriate
software to handle their format.

>    * it takes 4 minutes to boot in DB mode (whatever that
>    means...)* sound quality is said to be "OK".
>    * maximum volume is not loud enough
> 
> 
> What exactly is SPDIF?
> 
> And is there any way possible to get one of these things to play in a
> car stereo? 

That's what FM transmit is about. Either that or use a tape adapter
like you used to use for the CD players.

> I've been meaning on getting a new sound system in my car anyhow.
> If I can get something that can interface with an mp3 player, that
> would be really awesome.
> 
> You've pretty much sold me on one of these things, but I wanted to ask
> a few more questions before jumping in.  :)
> 
> Pete
> 
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