andy, did you try single user mode? when i sent my reply, i assumed that was the first thing you tried. begin andy wergedal <awerg@yahoo.com> > I have waited but no time out. > I have removed all cards, and waited again but no timeout. > > When I press ctl-atl-del it skips to the next few modules but then shutsdown and reboots (like it should). > > -- Andy