[vox-tech] Re: 'screen' size?

Mark K. Kim vox-tech@lists.lugod.org
Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:07:40 -0800 (PST)


Create a QApplication terminal program that runs inside a window (instead
of QPEApplication that maximizes itself to fit the display)?  You can
resize the window as large as you want and "pan" by moving the window.

-Mark :)

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, William Kendrick wrote:

>
> [ regarding my problem running "tin" on my ISP's shell, while SSH'd in
>   from my Zaurus, I asked folks in my LUG whether 'screen' had a way of
>   providing a larger virtual screen than the terminal size, and then
>   allowing me to scroll/pan around ]
>
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:27:45AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >
> > you might be able to fool tin by setting COLUMNS and LINES, but you'd
> > need a way to scroll.   surely the zaurius has some concept of a virtual
> > screen?
>
> Currently, no.  The two ways to resolve this include:
>
>   1. Rotating the terminal 90 degrees.  (I can't do this, but I think
>      it's a feature coming soon.)  Of course, this raises the issue of
>      how to type on the hardware keyboard w/o turning your head sideways :)
>
>   2. Making the terminal provide an "80 column emulation" mode, which,
>      when enabled, provides a horizontal scrollbar.
>
>      [ Sharp and QPE folks!  Do you think this is feasible? ]
>
>
>
> One suggestion one of the developers (someone like me, not someone from
> Sharp/Trolltech) came up with was to alter the tools (for example, rewrite
> "ps" to make it display less text, or reformat it to fit better).
>
> Two problems with this solution:
>
>   1. That doesn't help me when I'm ssh'd somewhere and running "ps" on the
>      remote machine :)
>
>   2. Don't fool with standard tools!!! :)  If you alter the output of "ps",
>      unless you also make it smart enough to tell if it's outputting to
>      a terminal or a pipe, you risk messing up shell scripts that
>      depend on it.
>
>
> I'm sad to hear screen has no panning ability, but I suppose noone
> really ever had a reason to think of it. :)
>
> At least "less" allows you to scroll with [ and ] keys. :)
> Too bad you can't pipe ncurses apps like "tin" through "less" ;) ;)
>
> -bill!
>
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