Debian packaging (was Re: [vox-tech] IDE recomendations)

[Peter Jay Salzman]

begin Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil@dcn.davis.ca.us> 
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Ted Deppner wrote:
> 
> > I think a talk on the debian packaging system would be good too.  It's an
> > IDE (non graphical of course - perhaps an iDE then).  This would probably
> > take a whole session though.
> > 
> > Things like building kernels, taking packages from unstable and building
> > them for stable, etc.
> > 
> > Is there any interest in this?
> 
> I would like to see that, particularly if it was presented in
> stages.  Like, I want to build a "hello world" .deb and what is
> involved?  What happens when I decide to use ncurses to print my
> message?  What happens if I want to package someone elses program that has
> lots of #define configuration macros?  What happens when the version of
> ncurses increments?  What happens when my own program version increments?
 
cd /usr/share/doc/debian/maint-guide.html
lynx index.html

it's all there.

but quickly:
you don't pick the interface.  the person who is installing your package
  picks the interface.  the standard interface is "dialog" which is
  ncurses like.

#defines are fine.

debian version numbers are of the form:

  ii  libncurses5   5.2.20010318-3 Shared libraries for terminal handling
                      ^          ^
                      |          |
             upstream author     debian packager number
				 number

when the upstream author of ncurses releases a new version, you bump the
upstream version number.  if you just want to modify your packaging of
the app, you bump your debian internal number.

there's actually a very strict standard by which version numbers are
developed.  it's outlined in the maint.guide.

i've played around with this stuff.  if you have any other questions, i
can try to answer.

pete


> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:04:16AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > > well, we could try a talk on linux IDE's.  each talk would be on the
> > > short side.  i could do a talk on snavigator (which i've used before)
> > > or whatever i decide to try (i'm going to research a few IDE's today).
> > > 
> > > anyone else work with linux IDE's?   we can ask if someone uses an IDE
> > > in saclug and do a combined talk for both lugod and saclug.  maybe we
> > > can try to poll nblug or roselug for IDE users.
> 
> I have used several Windows IDEs, but when I last investigated them on
> Linux a couple of years ago, I decided they weren't up to par.  Kylix
> looked nice, but I have absolutely no interest in using Delphi.
> 
> I have been using Emacs (at a fairly crude level because I don't have 
> the hang of Lisp) and ddd this year.  I miss context-sensitive
> name-completion, but ddd is quite impressive.
> 
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