[vox-if] Re: May Installfest on Sat the 19th
Christopher James McKenzie
mckenzie at cs.ucdavis.edu
Mon May 21 12:33:41 PDT 2007
> Thanks Chris, Decided to struggle along on my own.
> Got Slackware 11.0 installed on a computer with
> a bad DVD drive.
Why did you do slackware? I use it but my policy is to not recommend
what I personally use except in rare instances. I am asking because I'm
hoping that you didn't install it because of me.
> Used a USB travel drive to grab
> bits at a time off a computer with a good DVD
Large sequential blocks and checksums, especially with the "nofail"
option on dd can help a lot to speed things up...
> -- tried to do a NFS install. The computers
> would ping each other, edited the /etc/exports file,
> followed instructions exactly to the best of my
Yeah, people that write instructions rarely try and follow them - I hope
you ran rpc.portmap on the client machine. NFS is a horrible 80s
technology that I still use daily but I need to expunge somehow. There
are some debugging tools available - exportfs and showmount are pretty
good ones to try. nmap can help along with netstat.
> ability but no joy. Got rpc.portmapper timeouts,
> etc. etc. Bottom line, if you have to do an install
> on a computer that won't read the media, how would
> you have done it? Since Slackware install is still
Unless the machine is an obscure architecture, rip the drive out and
install it on some normal machine. Then after you have the default
install put it back. If you insist on keeping the drivs in the machine
than you are making your life difficult.
It sounds like you have a network, which is good. I can think of a few
unix like systems out there that will allow you to do a network install
if you can easily get out to the net. THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION but
simply a list of OS's that are currently active that I can think of
offhand that have straight forward net installs.
There are probably quite a few more obscure elitest ones out there
which, in my experience, usually translates into meaning "rarely
updated, full of bugs, no support".
If you can't get to the net via ethernet, SLIP will get you an install
at a blazing 10KB/s (which means bring a book) - but it's still much
better then using the old 1.4 MB floppies which in my experience have an
average transfer rate, minus seek time of about 30KB/s anyway (single
speed CD is 176.4 KB/s)
And as a note, I have been able to bridge SLIP->ETHER many times since
about my first attempt in the late 90's. It's a matter of creating a
tunneling and a slip device and then, I guess, today, on modern linux,
writing iptables accordingly. When it's done, you get full on internet
over a null modem line.
Also, don't discount PCI add-ons and external devices. A well behaved
BIOS will probe the PCI bus and ask the devices if they have any
interest to boot. External SCSI, USB, and Firewire are not unheard of,
and in fact, are things I used to do all the time to install.
Two things you never want t o do is install over FIR and do one of those
tftp bootp ethernet installs, where there is a boot from ethernet card
to fork an actual linux install. In my experience, these are horrible
hacks - as in, things that actually do not work.
> based on the old disk sets it is more forgiving
> than some others. Don't think I would have tried
> this with any other distro.
> Thanks for any insights.
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