<div class="gmail_extra">Bill, list,<br><br>Thanks for explaining the flash situation, very enlightening. Does this all hold true for chromium (the open source/unbranded version of chrome) or just google chrome?<br><br>Sounds like Ubuntu recommends some <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-1204-arrives-and-its-great/10836">amazon S3 mirrors </a>which to speed downloads. <br>
<br><br>-Carl<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Bill Broadley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@broadley.org" target="_blank">bill@broadley.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 04/26/2012 02:44 PM, Carl Boettiger wrote:<br>
> installed today (thanks to UCD's mirror).<br>
<br>
</div>Happy to be of service, at least if it was mine. Actually I thought our<br>
ISOs were used to populate at least one of the other mirrors as well.<br>
GigE + torrent makes for quick downloads.... hopefully I helped out a<br>
few others that way as well. Sad that ubuntu handles releases so<br>
poorly, they wait 12-24 hours for mirrors to sync, then they are<br>
horribly overloaded anyways. Is an RSS feed of the torrents as soon as<br>
they are ready too much to ask?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> First impressions: no problems,<br>
> fast & stable. Unity is very responsive & the HUD is neat.<br>
<br>
</div>I like unity in general, but I *HATE* the global menu. Seems great for<br>
a tablet/netbook where you run everything fullscreen. Not to much if<br>
you gasp have a few dozen windows/tabs/terminals and don't want to play<br>
the race to the top of the screen for the menu constantly, god forbid<br>
you want to turn off click to focus. It becomes a silly game of<br>
landmines and you have to try to make it to the top of the screen<br>
without mousing over any other window.<br>
<br>
I did find:<br>
<a href="http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-the-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/" target="_blank">http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-the-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/</a><br>
<br>
But I've not tried it yet.<br>
<br>
> There's some buzz<<a href="http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-released/" target="_blank">http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-released/</a>>about<br>
<div class="im">> adobe handing linux flash off to google, leaving us to require chrome<br>
> for a browser fully supporting flash? Thoughts on this?<br>
<br>
</div>I'm bit vague on the details, hopefully someone will chime in if I'm wrong.<br>
<br>
Basically the old flash interface SUCKED. It assumed a single brower<br>
process, running on a single CPU, and was tightly integrated. The had<br>
several undesirable effects:<br>
* You couldn't use a second CPU core<br>
* Fullscreen video didn't often work/was too slow<br>
* You couldn't use any video acceleration<br>
* If flash crashed your browser crashed<br>
* Memory leaks/CPU spun busy would require restarting the browser often.<br>
* Flash could corrupt memory... of the browser and crash it.<br>
* Tiny changes in flash *OR* the browser would change how well it<br>
worked, often requiring users to play the M*N combinations to try to<br>
find something approximating stable.<br>
<br>
<br>
Chrome came out with a radically better browser. Separation between the<br>
main part of the browser per tab rendering engine. As well as<br>
separating the per tab rendering engine and plugins like flash It was<br>
multi-cpu friendly and could often (not always) survive a crash in a<br>
tab. To achieve this they brought out a new API that allowed flash to<br>
run in it's own process. This provided protection of browser memory,<br>
allowed multiple CPUs to work etc.<br>
<br>
Adobe was happy, this let flash apps run better, and provided a better<br>
user experience at minimal engineering cost to them.<br>
<br>
Firefox had a competing API, got all pissy and offended, and announced<br>
they would *NEVER* support the new flash/chrome API because there's was<br>
plenty good (but didn't have flash).<br>
<br>
Not sure anyone cares at this point though, seems like the same devel<br>
tools that make it easy/popular to have zillions of flash widgets on the<br>
web will soon (if not already) spit out HTML5 to do the same thing and<br>
*gasp* work with the zillion of android/IOS widgets out there.<br>
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