[vox] Software for Flyers

[jim stockford]

out of ignorance:
    conceptually at least, isn't there the possibility of
integrating pantone coloring abilities in the GIMP
GUI, and aren't pantone colors CYMK?
    even more broadly, maybe the discussion is about
the idea of serious-workers-in-the-GUI wanting
immediate feedback (never mind display dependability)
wrt printing?


On Sep 5, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:48:10AM -0700, I wrote:
>>
>> I realize a lot of printing services prefer CMYK format (like, what, 
>> is
>> there a ".cmyk" file that you convert an image into?),
>
> Ok, I now see from the "cmykgimp" project that the file format in 
> question
> seems to be "CMYK TIFF" (that is, a TIFF in CMYK colorspace, instead 
> of RBG).
>
>
> [out of order]
>> In any case, why does one's front-end application (like The GIMP) 
>> need to
>> do this?  Can't this be part of a system-wide printer config, or at 
>> least
>> system-wide printer dialog (e.g., so that other applications can 
>> share it)?
>
> "cmykgimp" says it can:
>
>   * Convert an RGB image to individual CMYK layers, using specified
>     source and destination Colour Profiles.
>
>   * The RGB -> CMYK conversion is performed with the truly excellent
>     littlecms library
>
> So in a sense, I guess "littlecms" is doing the work, and the reason
> you'd want it in The GIMP (other than so it's one less step, I suppose)
> is for some features you currently do get, like:
>
>   * Separate CMYK into layers, for tweaking within The GIMP
>     (both as greyscale, and as Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black layers,
>     blended in 'darken only' mode on top of a white background, for
>     an editable, approximate representation of the image)
>
> And some features you don't currently get with "cmykgimp":
>
>   * Load CMYK TIFFs back in as layers, for editing.
>     (You must also save a copy in Gimp's native XCF format)
>   * Embed ICC color management 'profiles' (which I obviously don't 
> really
>     know anything about) into your images or layers.
>     (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Color_Consortium )
>
>
> <snip>
>> CMYK has always kind of been the 'silver bullet' for The GIMP, but 
>> obviously
>> I still don't understand why. :^)
>
> So now I wonder... does "cmykgimp" make people happy?  (The people who
> complained that GIMP didn't do CMYK, at least. ;^)  Its new file 
> dialogs
> still piss me off.)
>
> It does say it's "rudimentary" and "experimental", so probably not. :^)
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> bill at newbreedsoftware.com
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/
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