just in case there are people who haven't seen it yet: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35375.html do a google search. you'll find some interesting stuff about orkut (and, unfortunately, google). pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D