slashdotted, but just in case anybody missed it: NT4.0 too flawed to fix - official: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/29985.html bill, definitely a good candidate for the "why not MS" page! pete -- Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D