[vox-tech] Need Partitioning Advice
Rick Moen
rick at linuxmafia.com
Thu Jun 18 12:09:00 PDT 2009
Quoting Gabriel G. Rosa (grosa at ucdavis.edu):
> I find the argument of journal overhead to be about as relevant in a
> modern machine as the argument of software RAID overhead. That is to say,
> not at all.
This line of thought isn't going to fly among system administrators, at
least. ext2 has always been really valuable as a really fast operating
system, ext3, even used with well selected journal options, is merely
very good. In situations where performance matters -- and where a
journal is not essential -- the choice matters.
And even on my own servers, which are fundamentally bottlnecked on
outbound bandwidth rather than disk, I'd rather not lose easy
performance gains.
> That is odd indeed ;)
>
> Can you elaborate a bit on this?
Multiple extra layers of abstraction that don't, IMO, sufficiently repay
that added complexity. Instead of just dealing in filesystems and their
device names, you have a volume group on top of a partition, and a
logical volume on top of that. More layers in the middle of your system
to understand and manage (including device-mapper), and more to go wrong.
Yes, you get LVM2 snapshots. I don't personally find that compelling
enough. Your Mileage May Differ.<tm>
> I think Bill's point is that swap spindle optimization is become largely
> irrelevant with cheap and abundant RAM.
Again, this is not a compelling argument for sysadmins, or anyone else
who takes pride in getting easy gains of performance where they are
available.
> You can argue it's not a lot of extra work to set up, but it's also
> not a lot of gains to be had over time.
You have probably not seen systems thrashing for lack of it.
> Until your storage is all solid state and seek times become
> meaningless. Some of us (although not me yet) are already there.
Indeed, one way to eliminate the need for competence at
seek-optimisation is to eliminate seeking. ;->
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