i've never seen mac os x, but it looks like i may have to use one this summer for work. i have some questions about it: does it have gcc? vim? gnuplot? gnu make? is there a shell i can use (preferably bash)? or is the whole operating system point and click like windows? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D